Socialism… Seriously: A Brief Guide to Human Liberation - Danny Katch
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Opinion polls show that many people in the US prefer socialism to capitalism. But after being declared dead and buried for decades, socialism has come to mean little more than something vaguely less cruel and stupid than what we have now. That’s not exactly going to inspire millions to storm the barricades.
Danny Katch brings together the two great Marxist traditions of Karl and Groucho to provide an entertaining and insightful introduction to what the socialist tradition has to say about democracy, economics, and the potential of human beings to be something more than bomb-dropping, planet-destroying, racist fools.
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This post has 47 comments with rating of 4/5
July 29th, 2020
Thanks
July 29th, 2020
This time, we will do it right! We are so much smarter than all those who have gone before. Venezuela for all.
July 29th, 2020
socialism will work if im the one implementing it, trust me !
July 29th, 2020
“It’s for your own good.” Equality for all! (more for me and my cronies)
Resist the collective and you will disappear. The Individual has no place in the Borg.
Tried it, Failed, untold Millions died.
July 29th, 2020
Justice! means getting other peoples’ stuff for “reasons”.
July 29th, 2020
Huh, I wouldn’t have pegged daenigma100 as a nazi… too bad
July 29th, 2020
the only good commie is a dead commie
July 29th, 2020
I did not kill people!
I’m killing communists!
July 29th, 2020
We’ve killed our first 100000000, now for the rest!
July 30th, 2020
Socialism, because people apparently NEVER learn.
July 30th, 2020
Oh my, I love it.
If you believe Nazis were a socialist political organization, you might be a redneck.
July 30th, 2020
I like how these dumb asses think capitalism went right lol
July 30th, 2020
I like how these dumb asses think socialism went right lol
July 30th, 2020
Vladimir Lenin
Joseph Stalin
Mao Zedong
Kim Jong-il
=
100000000 killed by socialism.
Unfortunately it doesn’t stop with those dictators. Just think of Cuba under Castro, Cambodia under Pol Pot, Venezuela…and on and on.
Socialism has never worked and never will. It doesn’t matter how many people it murders trying to force it upon us.
The amazing thing is that it still has ANY credibility. I think we have to go to the discipline of Psychology for answers to that one.
Logic, reason, facts? Irrelevant? Wow…
July 30th, 2020
“bomb-dropping, planet-destroying, racist fools” Yup, bout what I’d expect to hear from a Red. Never forget, the Reds hate you, the West and all good things!!
July 30th, 2020
cklem420
The Nazis official political name was:
“National Socialist German Workers’Party”,or (wait for it) The Nazi Party.
If you believe differently, you might be real Stupid!
July 30th, 2020
FlankHawk
Go to another country with a political system that is more to your liking. Like Cuba, Russia, China, Venezuela, Zimbabwe? No? Whinny coward.
Stand up for what you believe and leave!
July 30th, 2020
@apollo60
Huh? What?
I do believe you are a little confused.
I should move to a Socialist country? I have enough dislike for the “Democratic Socialist” country I live in; Sweden.
Hence my dislike for anything “Socialist”. From experience…
July 30th, 2020
It’s great to refer to a writer that is well known to me, and that’s me:
“The problem with ideas that Americans choose to call “communism” “bolshevism” etc. is that they’re really not. America’s so-called left is what we scandinavians think as middle of the road, ho-hum, right-ish. It means that it’s rational and decent to try keep poverty and hunger in check. Our police doesn’t shoot people as the first act. We don’t leave people to live in the streets if we can help it. Our medical care is mostly free or very affordable. And we can speak our mind and our press is way more free than yours.”
And about Sweden: While they have their quirks, I can vouch that neither their economics or their politics have anything to do with the sort of dictatorship you dummies choose to call “socialism”.
Democracy is a funny thing. You Americans should try it.
July 30th, 2020
Socialism really means whatever you want it to mean apparently
July 30th, 2020
I beg to differ illodiini.
The left of today that we see in the U.S. are not - or what used to be - middle of the road.
With their identity politics and postmodernism they’re just as deranged and misguided as the worst Communists of Europe. Their ideology is Marxist. We’re unfortunately seeing a spread of these more extreme ideas here (Sweden). Or, they’re getting more mainstream than they used to be. We have always had the crazy far-left here too.
But that aside, the similarities between Scandinavian Socialism and it’s big brother Communism can’t be overlooked. It’s not by accident the word Socialist appear in the name of the parties: groupthink, we know best what you need, we are morally superior and can therefore dictate what you have to do. If you don’t like it - there is something wrong with YOU.
As to the superiority of the Swedish system:
“rational and decent to try keep poverty and hunger in check” - as if that’s different in other countries, including the U.S.
“our police doesn’t shoot people as the first act” - as if that’s a norm in the U.S, check the statistics.
“we don’t leave people to live in the streets if we can help it” - oh, yeah, we’re so good. As if we’re doing such a good job here..
“our medical care is mostly free or very affordable” - with drawbacks you don’t mention, like long waiting times for treatment. Free? Who do you think is paying for it? Santa?
“we can speak our mind and our press is way more free than yours” - no, it’s not and with cancel culture things are changing everywhere.
But thank you, you give us a good example of the erroneous beliefs of the left, of Socialism.
Moral superiority (you should try Democracy in the U.S.) “We know best”.
The arrogance.
July 30th, 2020
@FlankHawk
This is your brain on right wing lol
July 30th, 2020
@ednice
I consider myself as Libertarian or a Liberal in the original, classical sense.
But I guess that from your point of view that’s “right wing”.
Sad.
July 31st, 2020
While I’m not a huge fan of a strictly socialist economy, the world is absolutely moving more towards a Capo-socialist system. Capitalism has proven to simply not work in the long run. Well, it clearly works for some, the 5% that controls the 95% of the wealth, but not so much for the other 95% who are fighting over that last 5%. Also, people seem to confuse socialism and communism when they are not the samething, its like calling a democracy and a republic the same, there are obvious similarities, but then there are also distinct differences. No human being should EVER be allowed to posses more wealth then his great-great-great-great grandkids could ever spend in their lives, especially when there are kids going hungry in the U.S. and all over the world. Do I think the U.S. should go with full on Socialist economy? No. Does there need to be a redistribution of wealth taken from the INSANELY rich and put into programs that would benefit people who, legitimately, cant, for one reason or another, provide for their families. Are there lazy people in the world who just dont want to work? Of course, but, does poor always equal lazy? Absolutely not.
July 31st, 2020
A quote from Joseph Schumpeter:
“The capitalist engine is first and last an engine of mass production which unavoidably also means production for the masses. . . It is the cheap cloth, the cheap cotton and rayon fabric, boots, motorcars and so on that are the typical achievements of capitalist production, and not as a rule improvements that would mean much to the rich man. Queen Elizabeth owned silk stockings. The capitalist achievement does not typically consist in providing more silk stockings for queens but in bringing them within reach of factory girls in return for steadily decreasing amounts of effort.”
To which Don Boudreaux responded:
“Read that last sentence again. We should teach it to our children. Instead, I fear they are learning that under capitalism, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It just isn’t so.”
Are there bad examples of Capitalism? YES!
But it is the best system we’ve ever had. No country today is 100% capitalist. That doesn’t work.
We need - and have - regulations in place to assure a fair system. Is it perfect? No. But no system is, or can be.
Under Capitalism the world has gotten richer and we have increased the standard of living. ESPECIALLY in the poor parts of our world.
http://www.un.org: “There has been marked progress in reducing poverty over the past decades. According to the most recent estimates, in 2015, 10 per cent of the world’s population lived at or below $1.90 a day. That’s down from 16 per cent in 2010 and 36 per cent in 1990. This means that ending extreme poverty is within our reach.”
Can we say the same for a Socialist system? (And this is what baffles me. Look at history, look at facts.)
The great ideas of Marx and Engels? Poverty, starvation, dictatorship, oppression. It has never worked. Just look at our most recent example of Venezuela.
Do we need to see more examples of this completely failed system before it sinks in?
Well, apparently. Just up till a few years ago the left - and in this group I include leading left-leaning politicians in Europe and the U.S. - were amazed and thrilled by Chavez. They loved him. What a great example.
July 31st, 2020
@FlankHawk:
I’ll just bet you have prepared a manifesto of thousands of pages, how Sweden is a left wing hell. Breivik comes to mind. Get help.
July 31st, 2020
Btw, I’m a Finn. So there.
August 1st, 2020
@illodiini
So being against the failed system of Socialism is the same as what..?
Being a Liberal is the same thing as what..?
Perspective much?
Ignorance much?
And Breivik is Norwegian. So there. Your point?
August 1st, 2020
@illodiini et al.
This is such a perfect representation of the Lefts intellectual failings.
Notice for instance how illodiini doesn’t dispute the facts I produce on how Capitalism and a free market has reduced world poverty quite remarkably in a very short time. He can’t. But it doesn’t fit his worldview.So what does he do? He uses the go-to formula of the left; they throw a tantrum and resort to name-calling.
He has no argument so he starts calling his opponent a deranged mass-murdering fanatic.
It’s quite revealing, isn’t it.
August 1st, 2020
Socialism, in its democratic form, is doing quite well in Skandinavia. Hence the most happy people in the world. Freedom of the press is also first rate here. As is the freedom of speech. While NEOliberalism is trying to creep here, too, the people remain more or less decent. Excluding a few deranged mass-murdering fanatics.
August 1st, 2020
Well, first you’d have to define what the heck NEOliberalism is. Seems to be a very ambiguous term that can mean anything.
“Neoliberalism is essentially an intentionally imprecise stand-in term for free market economics, for economic sciences in general, for conservatism, for libertarians and anarchists, for authoritarianism and militarism, for advocates of the practice of commodification, for center-left or market-oriented progressivism, for globalism and welfare state social democracies, for being in favor of or against increased immigration, for favoring trade and globalization or opposing the same, or for really any set of political beliefs that happen to be disliked by the person(s) using the term.”
Phillip W. Magness
Sounds like more leftist propagandist language.
What’s creeping in to our societies are Marxist ideas of intersectionality, deconstructionism, postmodernism, literally (clearly stated by their proponents) trying to destroy the Western Democratic system. Why? Because the West is evil, the West is behind everything that is wrong with the world.
It’s a seriously warped way at looking at the world and most of us just don’t agree.
August 1st, 2020
There you go! If most of you/us don’t agree, there’s the democracy waiting for you. Vote, vote , vote!
But while it’s not been fun debating with you, Flank, I must stop here. One can stomach only so much right wing jargon without real content. Don’t go shooting anybody, now.
August 2nd, 2020
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
August 3rd, 2020
@illodiini
Yeah, the truth can be painful to face but don’t worry too much ill. Maybe one day you’ll be able to stomach it.
Try not to burn too many strawmen or buildings out there.
August 3rd, 2020
FlankHawk - Your comments are all spot on. I am glad you took the time to make the argument, as you have saved me the effort. I couldn’t have put it better.
illodiini - Oh dear my friend. I’m not sure why you bothered. I little out of depth, I feel.
August 3rd, 2020
* A little out of depth…
August 4th, 2020
This is a mistake, but here goes: Quoting endlessly people using them big words doesn’t intelligent make. My point is mostly to suggest that people with decent means are happy people. They don’t burn and destroy things. If majority thinks that they don’t get what they deserve, sooner or later things go ka-boom. It’s as simple as that.
August 4th, 2020
Yeah, but naturally there’s a Katch.
August 5th, 2020
Dat is so fonnee but truu.
I almost wrote: Et tu, Brute.
August 5th, 2020
I’m sorry ill, are we using too many big words for you?
https://youtu.be/iDJeTnLKLEI
August 5th, 2020
Your dyslexia has my pity, Flank.
August 5th, 2020
Haha!
OK, ill..
There’s another big word for that:
projection.
Look it up.
Bye now.
August 5th, 2020
Hey, I’m just referring to the book - not to any of youse fine fellows.
August 7th, 2020
The title should read “Socialism…Seriously???”
Who would choose a defunct, murderous philosophy of subjugation, torture, destruction, tyranny and death!!? Only those that wish to be in control of it
August 7th, 2020
That’s a lot of comments from people who apparently can’t read.
August 9th, 2020
FlankHawk
Sweden is not Socialist per say. It incredibly high taxes in a Capitalist System.
I agree with many of your points. Well said.
August 21st, 2020
I’ll skip the mostly bs observances of people who don’t actually live in a country based on Capitalism and a free market and just address one tiny comment: @jonwb: who told you that the Nazis were Socialists? Or did you just assume that since the word is in the name of the party? In either case, you’ve missed the first word of the pair: National Socialist. Germany, first, last, and always, and purge the Fatherland of all those non-Germanic peoples. That’s Nazism. Not Socialism. And what we want is a kind of Democratic Socialism, in the vein of FDR and Teddy Roosevelt. A capitalist society that recognizes the plight of those without, and enacts assorted measures to alleviate it as much as possible. Social Security is a Socialist idea. So is Medicare and Medicaid. All three are among the most popular American policies ever introduced. And btw, the conflation of Democratic Socialism with Communism, Stalinism, and the peculiar Oriental brand of Communism is just plain stupid.
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